Indicators not self cancelling

[Paul Heffernan]

Update, after a fair amount of fiddling, a few swear words and the odd grunt......... the cowl is fitted. Can't take the credit as a pal stepped in and managed to sort it.

So, it seems the wiring on the replacement stalks is not as neatly trimmed, and needs to be pushed and pulled into place to enable the cowl to fit. It's raining here at the moment, so I've not been able to road test, so fingers crossed it all works properly.

[Ian F]

That sounds typical Paul. I had that struggle with mine,

Ian F

[Paul Heffernan]

Ian Fozzard wrote:
> That sounds typical Paul. I had that struggle with mine,
>
> Ian F


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[Paul Heffernan]

So, as mentioned in my earlier post, we had a bit of a devil of a job to get the cowl to "re fit" over the new indicator stalk, or more accurately it's wiring.

Finally got around to testing the operation of the self cancelling today and guess what.... It's not properly working!

The stalk neatly fits in place; the cowl is snug and all of the bolts are comfortably in place. However, indicate right and the indicators work but as I start to turn right, the indicators stop working, ie switch off. There's no "click" from the stalk/column, but it does click to self cancel as I wind the lock back off.

So, given the stalk went back on pretty much like for like, the self cancelling cam on the steering column is at 9 O'clock (right hand drive car) I'm mystified.......... anyone got any thoughts, pointers?

Regards

Paul

[Ian F]

Paul, there are two reasons that I can see which would cause a faulty operation: a mechanical fault with the switchgear; or an electrical fault with the continuity.

What I would do is jack the front up under the suspension unit so that both wheels are off the ground and the steering turns easily. Take of the cowl and observe the mechanism. You should be able to see exactly what is going on. If the cam and two levers are operating correctly then you have probably got an electrical problem with the switch?

Can you post a photo with the cowl removed so that we can see exactly how you have it set up?

I found it quite simple, so it should be easily resolved I think.

Ian F

[Paul Heffernan]

Ian Fozzard wrote:
> Paul, there are two reasons that I can see which would cause a faulty
> operation: a mechanical fault with the switchgear; or an electrical fault
> with the continuity.
>
> What I would do is jack the front up under the suspension unit so that both
> wheels are off the ground and the steering turns easily. Take of the cowl
> and observe the mechanism. You should be able to see exactly what is going
> on. If the cam and two levers are operating correctly then you have
> probably got an electrical problem with the switch?
>
> Can you post a photo with the cowl removed so that we can see exactly how
> you have it set up?
>
> I found it quite simple, so it should be easily resolved I think.
>
> Ian F

Thanks Ian.

I will try to do this tomorrow. However, to try and explain - The stalk is brand new, and firmly "clicks" when operating the indicators either left or right without moving the steering wheel.

However, if I indicate to turn right, the stalk clicks into place but as I wind the lock on to actually turn the car, the indicator stalk seems to slop/slide halfway back to it's centre/rest position. At this point the indicator stops flashing, if I click it right again, the indicators work again. Then when turning the lock off, the stalk clicks back to the off or rest position.

I will try to video this and/or at least photo as you've suggested.

Many thanks.

[Ian F]

Paul, if you can record a video clip on your phone, it will be quite a big file size, but you can upload onto YouTube and then post the link on this forum. We can all enjoy the show then 😊

Ian F

[Paul Heffernan]

Ian Fozzard wrote:
> Paul, if you can record a video clip on your phone, it will be quite a big
> file size, but you can upload onto YouTube and then post the link on this
> forum. We can all enjoy the show then 😊
>
> Ian F

Hi again.

I did do a little video clip, but I also managed to solve the problem too!

In short, once I'd taken the cowl off (again!!) and having jacked the front up to make the steering easier, I was easily able to see the problem.

As explained in the earlier post, the stalk clicked solidly into place when first indicating, but as I turned the wheel, the cam engaged as expected, but as I applied lock, the whole indicator stalk kind of shuffled on the column.

The issue was simply that the "U" clamp holding the stalk onto the steering column was not fixed tightly enough, this allowed the "slop" I mentioned previously which allowed the indicator to partly cancel in the wrong place.

I tightened the "U" clamp fixings and hey presto! Tested it on left and right lock turns...All done 😊

ps - Here's a You Tube link showing the indicator "slop" with the cowl on. I didn't do one with the cowl off as the explaination should suffice. You never know it might help someone. https://youtu.be/RNKlfmO6NCo

[Ian F]

Excellent!! Another one done......

Can be a fine line between too loose and a stripped thread......

Ian F

[Paul Heffernan]

Ian Fozzard wrote:
> Excellent!! Another one done......
>
> Can be a fine line between too loose and a stripped thread......
>
> Ian F

Spot on! I think I was being a little too cautious though. 👍