Convertible Hood replacement
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Convertible Hood replacement
Having leads on overdrive servicing, and windscreen replacement, my thoughts now turn to hood replacement.
The hood on my 1976 car is black vinyl with some dark green piping and a zip out rear window but also has a 6 inch split behind the driver’s door ( presumably from careless folding)!
So the question is what spec to go for in a new hood. Vinyl, double duck, canvas, mohair are all terms I’ve heard to describe material offerings but which is the most practical? Is a zip out rear window a necessity and is coloured piping acceptable, desirable or down right naff?
Finally who are trusted suppliers to achieve a quality fit and finish?
Once again all advice, experiences and comments appreciated. Regards, David.
The hood on my 1976 car is black vinyl with some dark green piping and a zip out rear window but also has a 6 inch split behind the driver’s door ( presumably from careless folding)!
So the question is what spec to go for in a new hood. Vinyl, double duck, canvas, mohair are all terms I’ve heard to describe material offerings but which is the most practical? Is a zip out rear window a necessity and is coloured piping acceptable, desirable or down right naff?
Finally who are trusted suppliers to achieve a quality fit and finish?
Once again all advice, experiences and comments appreciated. Regards, David.
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Re: Convertible Hood replacement
Hi David,
All the main suppliers of parts - Moss, B&G, MGBhive, Rimmers - and more - will provide a quality hood and can send it too you. Check out their websites.
Make sure you order the correct one for the car AND the frame as these changed slightly over the years and many cars have had a frame change along the way. This will give you a good idea of what's involved to do it yourself - http://www.mgexp.com/article/soft-top-replacement.html
As you are aware, the original hoods were vinyl, but the vinyl available today is considered to be inferior and is prone to tears and cracking. The best available is Mohair and that is used for the modern MGF and TF, but it is more expensive and is a good selling feature should you wish to sell the come in the future. Only maintenance it to hoover it now and then to get the diesel particulates out of the material. Double Duck is 2 layers of canvas with a rubber membrane inbetween. It is prone to fading.
I don't know of any soft top makers in the west country (perhaps others can help) but a friend had a bespoke Mohair hood made and fitted by Don Hoods in Erdington, Birmingham and it was absolutely superb. The MGB wouldn't need bespoking and they will have the pattern for making one. They can send it to you if you feel confident to fit it, or get a local restorers to fit it for you.
Whether you go for a zip out window or not personal choice, but if it is stitched in make sure you follow the folding instructions in the drivers handbook. This will make sure you don't trap in the frame when it is folding and crack the rear window.
Prices don't seem to vary much between suppliers, so it might be more of a case of who can get one to you quickest.
A full tonneau cover is useful for a B as well, especially on nice sunny days and is quicker to put up and keep the interior out of site. There are plenty for sale on ebay - make sure you get one with suitable for the headrest seats and that it is for a RHD car! Don't bother with half tonneau (hood cover), in my opinion they are a waste of time (and money) unless it is a concourse car.
All the main suppliers of parts - Moss, B&G, MGBhive, Rimmers - and more - will provide a quality hood and can send it too you. Check out their websites.
Make sure you order the correct one for the car AND the frame as these changed slightly over the years and many cars have had a frame change along the way. This will give you a good idea of what's involved to do it yourself - http://www.mgexp.com/article/soft-top-replacement.html
As you are aware, the original hoods were vinyl, but the vinyl available today is considered to be inferior and is prone to tears and cracking. The best available is Mohair and that is used for the modern MGF and TF, but it is more expensive and is a good selling feature should you wish to sell the come in the future. Only maintenance it to hoover it now and then to get the diesel particulates out of the material. Double Duck is 2 layers of canvas with a rubber membrane inbetween. It is prone to fading.
I don't know of any soft top makers in the west country (perhaps others can help) but a friend had a bespoke Mohair hood made and fitted by Don Hoods in Erdington, Birmingham and it was absolutely superb. The MGB wouldn't need bespoking and they will have the pattern for making one. They can send it to you if you feel confident to fit it, or get a local restorers to fit it for you.
Whether you go for a zip out window or not personal choice, but if it is stitched in make sure you follow the folding instructions in the drivers handbook. This will make sure you don't trap in the frame when it is folding and crack the rear window.
Prices don't seem to vary much between suppliers, so it might be more of a case of who can get one to you quickest.
A full tonneau cover is useful for a B as well, especially on nice sunny days and is quicker to put up and keep the interior out of site. There are plenty for sale on ebay - make sure you get one with suitable for the headrest seats and that it is for a RHD car! Don't bother with half tonneau (hood cover), in my opinion they are a waste of time (and money) unless it is a concourse car.
Pete
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Re: Convertible Hood replacement
I am very tempted by the modern fabric examples as I would think there is less likelihood of material splitting when folded, which is obviously what has happened in the past on my car! The only slight issue is how this will be perceived within MG circles given that it does not remotely reflect the original material. I am not planning a concourse car but nevertheless want something that is not perceived as being “messed about with”.
Certainly going to have a look at Don Hoods, Peter, but will only consider fitting myself if they come with header attached.
Cheers, David
Certainly going to have a look at Don Hoods, Peter, but will only consider fitting myself if they come with header attached.
Cheers, David
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Re: Convertible Hood replacement
Don Hoods every time.
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Re: Convertible Hood replacement
Hi David,
Personally, I think having a mohair hood is a big plus point for the car, whether you wish to sell or just keep dry (and warm!). Yes a concours judge will knock points off for it not being original, but as you are not planning to restore (and maintain the car to that level), why not go for the best! It will certainly be appreciated when you go to a pub meet or in the MGB parking area at MG Live!
This advice would be different if it was an LE roadster or perhaps an MGC roadster as they are so much rarer and deserve to be kept in an original factory spec. But, there are so many 'run of the mill' MGBs still surviving that being different allows you to stand out from the crowd - there is room for everyone! Just enjoy it for the fun it will give you, and make sure you can maximise that.
You might have to send your header rail to Don Trimming for them to fit it. Even better might be to ship (take a look at https://www.parcel2go.com ) your whole existing hood as it is comes off the car to them, so they can make sure all the fixings are in the correct place for your car and do all the fitting to the frame for you. It then just a case of refitting it to the car. Give them a call to discuss your needs, they are very helpful. I first used Don Trimming in 1967 for an MG TD tonneau cover, so to be in business for 50 years or so they must be doing something right!
Personally, I think having a mohair hood is a big plus point for the car, whether you wish to sell or just keep dry (and warm!). Yes a concours judge will knock points off for it not being original, but as you are not planning to restore (and maintain the car to that level), why not go for the best! It will certainly be appreciated when you go to a pub meet or in the MGB parking area at MG Live!
This advice would be different if it was an LE roadster or perhaps an MGC roadster as they are so much rarer and deserve to be kept in an original factory spec. But, there are so many 'run of the mill' MGBs still surviving that being different allows you to stand out from the crowd - there is room for everyone! Just enjoy it for the fun it will give you, and make sure you can maximise that.
You might have to send your header rail to Don Trimming for them to fit it. Even better might be to ship (take a look at https://www.parcel2go.com ) your whole existing hood as it is comes off the car to them, so they can make sure all the fixings are in the correct place for your car and do all the fitting to the frame for you. It then just a case of refitting it to the car. Give them a call to discuss your needs, they are very helpful. I first used Don Trimming in 1967 for an MG TD tonneau cover, so to be in business for 50 years or so they must be doing something right!
Pete
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Re: Convertible Hood replacement
Hi from Leek Peter,
My son and I have recently bought a 1967 Mk1 in BRG.
The condition is excellent for a 52 year old 'B' but we were considering changing the hood. Mohair looks nice but my concern would be both fading and getting stained by the unavoidable bird droppings especially at the coast.
Have you any experience or been told about mohair hoods and tonneaus?
Kind regards
Malcolm
My son and I have recently bought a 1967 Mk1 in BRG.
The condition is excellent for a 52 year old 'B' but we were considering changing the hood. Mohair looks nice but my concern would be both fading and getting stained by the unavoidable bird droppings especially at the coast.
Have you any experience or been told about mohair hoods and tonneaus?
Kind regards
Malcolm
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Re: Convertible Hood replacement
Hi Malcolm
My only experience with a mohair hood was the one fitted to a 2002 MG TF I had a few years ago. This was quite grey in colour but using Autoglym Hood Cleaner and Hood Protector fixed the problem and it looked good again.
I mentioned above the friend who had a bespoke hood made (it was for a Jensen Healey) by Don Hoods. They reckoned that a mohair hood needs vacuuming every month to get rid of the diesel particulates which lead to a deterioration of the appearance of the hood. So I don't think there is any problems during the life of the hood if it is properly look after.
My only experience with a mohair hood was the one fitted to a 2002 MG TF I had a few years ago. This was quite grey in colour but using Autoglym Hood Cleaner and Hood Protector fixed the problem and it looked good again.
I mentioned above the friend who had a bespoke hood made (it was for a Jensen Healey) by Don Hoods. They reckoned that a mohair hood needs vacuuming every month to get rid of the diesel particulates which lead to a deterioration of the appearance of the hood. So I don't think there is any problems during the life of the hood if it is properly look after.
Pete
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Re: Convertible Hood replacement
Many thanks for your advice Peter - much appreciated.
We had decided that when we do replace with either vinyl or mohair, Don Hoods in Birmingham would be the place to take it to. The other place we hear good reports for general work is Prestige MG in Rugeley which, again, is relatively close.
We had decided that when we do replace with either vinyl or mohair, Don Hoods in Birmingham would be the place to take it to. The other place we hear good reports for general work is Prestige MG in Rugeley which, again, is relatively close.
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Re: Convertible Hood replacement
When my friend with the Jensen Healey asked Don Trimming about a vinyl hood they could make one but the vinyl they could get these days was vastly inferior to the vinyl hood were originally made from. So he chose to have mohair, which was about twice as expensive (+ the bespoking!) but it really transformed the look of the car. They did a superb job!
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